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莫言建议根据人性弱点建设防腐制度

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(莫)(言)(资)(料)(图)(
  建)(议)(根)(据)(人)(性)(弱)(点)(建)(设)(防)(腐)(制)(度)(
  莫)(言)(谈)(如)(何)(让)(掌)(权)(者)(从)(不)(敢)(贪)(到)(不)(能)(贪)(到)(不)(想)(贪)(
  在)(小)(说)(《酒)(国)(》中)(,莫)(言)(曾)(对)(20世)(纪)(90年)(代)(的)(公)(款)(吃)(喝)(等)(不)(正)(之)(风)(进)(行)(了)(深)(刻)(批)(判)(,对)(禁)(绝)(这)(种)(歪)(风)(也)(感)(到)(无)(奈)(无)(助)(。1日)(,中)(央)(纪)(委)(监)(察)(部)(网)(站)(推)(出)(“聆)(听)(大)(家)(”专)(访)(著)(名)(作)(家)(莫)(言)(实)(录)(。莫)(言)(在)(接)(受)(专)(访)(时)(对)(中)(国)(的)(反)(腐)(败)(谈)(了)(深)(刻)(的)(体)(会)(和)(建)(议)(,他)(认)(为)(,中)(央)(出)(台)(八)(项)(规)(定)(,反)(“四)(风)(”,取)(得)(的)(效)(果)(有)(目)(共)(睹)(。只)(要)(真)(抓)(实)(管)(,多)(么)(顽)(劣)(的)(歪)(风)(邪)(气)(都)(可)(以)(得)(到)(遏)(制)(整)(治)(。“可)(以)(这)(样)(说)(,中)(国)(现)(在)(的)(反)(腐)(力)(度)(超)(过)(了)(我)(的)(想)(象)(。”
  中)(国)(现)(在)(的)(反)(腐)(力)(度)(超)(过)(了)(我)(的)(想)(象)(
  谈)(到)(八)(项)(规)(定)(、反)(“四)(风)(”,莫)(言)(认)(为)(“这)(非)(常)(及)(时)(”。他)(说)(,前)(些)(年)(实)(际)(上)(也)(有)(类)(似)(一)(些)(规)(定)(,类)(似)(一)(些)(口)(号)(。但)(那)(个)(时)(候)(多)(数)(都)(是)(一)(阵)(风)(就)(吹)(过)(去)(了)(。“这)(次)(我)(觉)(得)(确)(实)(是)(动)(了)(真)(格)(儿)(,效)(果)(大)(家)(有)(目)(共)(睹)(”。
  他)(说)(,现)(在)(一)(些)(豪)(华)(的)(场)(所)(、饭)(店)(、酒)(店)(很)(难)(见)(到)(公)(款)(吃)(喝)(,很)(难)(一)(眼)(看)(到)(公)(务)(用)(车)(。再)(一)(个)(,过)(去)(公)(务)(接)(待)(不)(管)(两)(个)(人)(、三)(个)(人)(,都)(上)(很)(多)(很)(多)(菜)(,现)(在)(都)(非)(常)(注)(意)(节)(约)(,因)(为)(干)(部)(们)(也)(都)(高)(度)(警)(惕)(。“我)(想)(这)(样)(的)(情)(况)(会)(让)(老)(百)(姓)(很)(高)(兴)(。老)(百)(姓)(高)(兴)(就)(是)(最)(高)(的)(追)(求)(”。
  在)(《酒)(国)(》这)(本)(小)(说)(里)(,莫)(言)(曾)(对)(上)(世)(纪)(90年)(代)(的)(公)(款)(吃)(喝)(等)(不)(正)(之)(风)(进)(行)(了)(深)(刻)(的)(批)(判)(,对)(禁)(绝)(这)(种)(歪)(风)(也)(感)(到)(无)(奈)(无)(助)(。莫)(言)(说)(当)(时)(他)(也)(觉)(得)(这)(个)(好)(像)(根)(本)(制)(止)(不)(了)(。但)(现)(在)(看)(来)(,只)(要)(真)(管)(真)(抓)(还)(是)(管)(得)(住)(的)(,事)(实)(证)(明)(,才)(两)(年)(时)(间)(就)(基)(本)(管)(住)(了)(。“可)(以)(这)(样)(说)(,中)(国)(现)(在)(的)(反)(腐)(力)(度)(超)(过)(了)(我)(的)(想)(象)(”。
  社)(会)(风)(气)(坏)(官)(员)(应)(负)(首)(责)(,“官)(风)(不)(正)(,民)(风)(必)(歪)(”
  谈)(到)(纠)(正)(“四)(风)(”,莫)(言)(建)(议)(,干)(部)(应)(该)(树)(立)(一)(个)(最)(根)(本)(的)(观)(念)(,就)(是)(你)(的)(工)(作)(首)(先)(是)(对)(老)(百)(姓)(负)(责)(,对)(人)(民)(负)(责)(。领)(导)(干)(部)(也)(应)(该)(具)(备)(一)(种)(慧)(眼)(,要)(看)(破)(表)(演)(,看)(破)(表)(面)(文)(章)(,应)(该)(能)(够)(善)(于)(发)(现)(问)(题)(的)(本)(质)(。如)(果)(你)(知)(道)(下)(面)(有)(人)(演)(戏)(给)(你)(看)(,你)(就)(应)(该)(跳)(出)(这)(个)(舞)(台)(,不)(要)(扮)(演)(人)(家)(早)(就)(预)(先)(设)(定)(的)(这)(个)(角)(色)(。这)(样)(一)(种)(不)(配)(合)(,对)(纠)(正)(“四)(风)(”,对)(搞)(表)(面)(文)(章)(,也)(会)(是)(一)(个)(制)(止)(。
  莫)(言)(说)(,不)(能)(把)(腐)(败)(的)(原)(因)(完)(全)(归)(结)(为)(体)(制)(和)(社)(会)(,“我)(想)(第)(一)(个)(理)(由)(就)(是)(说)(古)(今)(中)(外)(都)(有)(贪)(腐)(,都)(有)(贪)(官)(,都)(有)(清)(官)(。另)(外)(一)(个)(就)(是)(说)(,在)(同)(样)(的)(体)(制)(下)(,同)(样)(的)(社)(会)(制)(度)(里)(,有)(的)(人)(贪)(,有)(的)(人)(就)(不)(贪)(”。
  他)(说)(,从)(某)(种)(意)(义)(上)(来)(说)(,腐)(败)(不)(仅)(仅)(是)(官)(场)(的)(事)(,当)(然)(社)(会)(风)(气)(坏)(了)(,官)(员)(应)(该)(负)(首)(责)(。“官)(风)(不)(正)(,民)(风)(必)(歪)(”。至)(于)(如)(何)(让)(掌)(权)(者)(从)(不)(敢)(贪)(到)(不)(能)(贪)(到)(不)(想)(贪)(,“我)(想)(一)(个)(最)(根)(本)(的)(认)(识)(,就)(是)(要)(认)(识)(到)(人)(性)(的)(弱)(点)(,然)(后)(根)(据)(人)(性)(的)(弱)(点)(来)(建)(设)(防)(范)(的)(制)(度)(”。
  “我)(想)(教)(育)(必)(须)(和)(制)(度)(建)(设)(相)(配)(合)(。因)(为)(教)(育)(对)(部)(分)(人)(确)(实)(会)(发)(挥)(作)(用)(,但)(是)(不)(可)(能)(对)(所)(有)(的)(人)(都)(发)(挥)(作)(用)(。对)(廉)(洁)(光)(荣)(、贪)(腐)(耻)(辱)(这)(类)(传)(统)(文)(化)(的)(训)(诫)(和)(教)(化)(作)(用)(,当)(然)(可)(以)(大)(搞)(这)(种)(宣)(传)(,但)(必)(须)(把)(这)(种)(宣)(传)(建)(立)(在)(制)(度)(建)(设)(的)(前)(提)(之)(上)(,建)(立)(在)(对)(人)(性)(弱)(点)(制)(约)(制)(度)(的)(前)(提)(之)(上)(,这)(样)(双)(管)(齐)(下)(,效)(果)(才)(更)(好)(。”他)(说)(。
  谈)(到)(反)(腐)(的)(艰)(巨)(性)(,他)(说)(,这)(不)(是)(一)(朝)(一)(夕)(就)(能)(奏)(效)(的)(,人)(们)(都)(应)(该)(有)(点)(反)(思)(精)(神)(,不)(能)(光)(拿)(眼)(睛)(盯)(着)(别)(人)(,盯)(着)(官)(员)(,光)(看)(到)(贪)(腐)(的)(黑)(暗)(面)(,“也)(应)(该)(换)(位)(思)(考)(一)(下)(,如)(果)(把)(我)(放)(到)(这)(样)(一)(个)(位)(置)(上)(,我)(能)(不)(能)(把)(握)(住)(自)(己)(”。
  他)(说)(,坚)(信)(千)(百)(万)(人)(的)(善)(念)(,会)(形)(成)(一)(种)(巨)(大)(的)(道)(德)(力)(量)(。这)(种)(道)(德)(力)(量)(会)(使)(很)(多)(丑)(恶)(现)(象)(得)(到)(限)(制)(,使)(很)(多)(不)(正)(确)(的)(东)(西)(得)(到)(校)(正)(。这)(样)(坚)(持)(下)(去)(,社)(会)(的)(整)(个)(风)(气)(就)(会)(变)(得)(越)(来)(越)(好)(。
  莫)(言)(语)(录)(
  ●谈)(制)(止)(“四)(风)(”
  领)(导)(干)(部)(应)(该)(具)(备)(一)(种)(慧)(眼)(,要)(看)(破)(表)(演)(,看)(破)(表)(面)(文)(章)(……如)(果)(你)(知)(道)(下)(面)(有)(人)(演)(戏)(给)(你)(看)(,你)(就)(应)(该)(跳)(出)(这)(个)(舞)(台)(,不)(要)(扮)(演)(人)(家)(早)(就)(预)(先)(设)(定)(的)(这)(个)(角)(色)(。这)(样)(一)(种)(不)(配)(合)(,对)(纠)(正)(“四)(风)(”,对)(搞)(表)(面)(文)(章)(,也)(会)(是)(一)(个)(制)(止)(。
  ●对)(反)(腐)(的)(期)(待)(
  反)(腐)(败)(不)(是)(一)(场)(运)(动)(,而)(是)(法)(治)(建)(设)(的)(重)(要)(内)(容)(。将)(来)(反)(腐)(败)(是)(一)(种)(常)(态)(。建)(立)(健)(全)(防)(腐)(败)(、反)(腐)(败)(的)(体)(制)(机)(制)(,肯)(定)(可)(以)(使)(风)(气)(得)(到)(巨)(大)(改)(变)(,使)(坏)(的)(现)(象)(得)(到)(根)(本)(遏)(制)(。
  ●谈)(最)(严)(重)(腐)(败)(
  大)(家)(都)(认)(为)(最)(严)(重)(的)(腐)(败)(是)(组)(织)(腐)(败)(和)(司)(法)(腐)(败)(。组)(织)(腐)(败)(的)(后)(果)(就)(是)(让)(品)(行)(不)(端)(、水)(平)(不)(高)(的)(蠢)(材)(、庸)(才)(进)(入)(官)(员)(队)(伍)(。这)(样)(的)(一)(些)(人)(来)(管)(理)(社)(会)(、行)(使)(权)(力)(、管)(理)(财)(政)(,带)(来)(的)(后)(果)(肯)(定)(是)(非)(常)(可)(怕)(的)(。而)(如)(果)(司)(法)(也)(腐)(败)(了)(,最)(后)(的)(底)(线)(崩)(溃)(了)(,整)(个)(社)(会)(肯)(定)(是)(人)(心)(不)(古)(。
  ●谈)(中)(国)(梦)(
  大)(家)(都)(希)(望)(我)(们)(国)(家)(富)(强)(,社)(会)(安)(定)(和)(平)(,家)(庭)(美)(满)(幸)(福)(,都)(希)(望)(健)(康)(愉)(快)(,我)(想)(这)(是)(中)(国)(梦)(主)(要)(的)(内)(容)(。中)(国)(梦)(需)(要)(千)(百)(万)(的)(人)(共)(同)(努)(力)(。每)(个)(人)(都)(要)(把)(自)(己)(的)(本)(职)(工)(作)(做)(好)(,干)(好)(自)(己)(的)(事)(,然)(后)(这)(个)(集)(体)(的)(梦)(想)(才)(有)(可)(能)(实)(现)(。
  ●谈)(艺)(术)(创)(作)(
  作)(家)(、艺)(术)(家)(必)(须)(扎)(根)(生)(活)(,跟)(人)(民)(同)(呼)(吸)(、共)(命)(运)(,真)(正)(了)(解)(老)(百)(姓)(的)(所)(思)(所)(想)(,知)(道)(老)(百)(姓)(生)(活)(的)(艰)(苦)(。
  莫)(言)(
  简)(介)(
  原)(名)(管)(谟)(业)(,1955年)(出)(生)(于)(山)(东)(高)(密)(。现)(任)(中)(国)(作)(家)(协)(会)(副)(主)(席)(,全)(国)(政)(协)(委)(员)(,中)(国)(艺)(术)(研)(究)(院)(文)(学)(院)(院)(长)(。2012年)(10月)(,获)(得)(诺)(贝)(尔)(文)(学)(奖)(。代)(表)(作)(品)(有)(《透)(明)(的)(红)(萝)(卜)(》、《红)(高)(粱)(》、《酒)(国)(》、《檀)(香)(刑)(》、《生)(死)(疲)(劳)(》、《蛙)(》等)(。
  莫)(言)(谈)(创)(作)(:
  正)(认)(真)(构)(思)(准)(备)(
  反)(腐)(败)(题)(材)(小)(说)(
  莫)(言)(说)(,他)(一)(直)(有)(创)(作)(反)(腐)(题)(材)(小)(说)(的)(想)(法)(,目)(前)(正)(在)(认)(真)(构)(思)(准)(备)(。当)(然)(是)(用)(戏)(剧)(的)(形)(式)(来)(写)(,还)(是)(用)(小)(说)(的)(形)(式)(来)(写)(,还)(没)(有)(完)(全)(想)(好)(。但)(毫)(无)(疑)(问)(是)(在)(写)(人)(的)(。
  “面)(对)(权)(力)(,面)(对)(金)(钱)(,面)(对)(这)(样)(那)(样)(的)(诱)(惑)(,对)(每)(个)(人)(都)(是)(一)(种)(考)(验)(,对)(每)(个)(人)(的)(灵)(魂)(都)(是)(一)(块)(试)(金)(石)(。把)(人)(物)(放)(在)(这)(样)(一)(种)(激)(烈)(的)(矛)(盾)(冲)(突)(当)(中)(去)(考)(虑)(,把)(人)(物)(灵)(魂)(放)(在)(道)(德)(、法)(律)(的)(这)(么)(一)(种)(显)(微)(镜)(下)(来)(研)(究)(,确)(实)(容)(易)(写)(得)(比)(较)(深)(刻)(。”莫)(言)(说)(,迟)(迟)(没)(有)(动)(笔)(,就)(是)(希)(望)(写)(出)(来)(让)(我)(自)(己)(首)(先)(满)(意)(,而)(且)(希)(望)(写)(得)(深)(一)(点)(。
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